I can unfollow crossposter's accounts, but I don't want to unfollow everyone who boosts a twitter crosspost.
Please, #fediverse, let's boost the fediverse, not twitter. If we want to share a good tweet, let's treat it like any other URL from the web.
What i find most astonishing is the number of crossposts from twitter! In my opinion it should always be the other way around. The superior system should feed the less superior one.
@zem It's a choice made by many individuals, expressing which platform and community they value less.
@zem @marian People DO care about freedom. Else they wouldn’t create accounts in the Fediverse. From personal experience I can say that it’s not yet the time for small initiatives outside the tech bubble to ditch Twitter. I really appreciate them being around here as much as they can, cause they are the ones making steps and sharing the word outside our world of nerds. It’s important to see mastodon etc icons on websites out there!
@marian Sometimes crossposters are sneaky and there are no overt signs of a toot being a crosspost. But once in a while some of their toots feels so detached from the general fediverse spirit that I begin to suspect that they're not really tooting here at all.
Perhaps that could be checked by replying or DMing to them, and if they don't reply back, then they're not really here.
@marian The responsibility, of course, should still fall only on the posters and boosters themselves. I fully agree with you!
However, I've found that a few filters helped quite a bit with that. For example, you can hide any toots with twitter.com, or RT. Just go into Preferences>Filters and add whichever filters you think would be useful.
@marian and if you're going to post a twitter message on another network, post TEXT. Please! I hate having a friend stream full of pictures of text.
@marian as a potential minor relief, you can hide boosts from people who mostly boost crossposters without unfollowing them... it's not perfect but if you have such people it can help.
Also works great for people who just boost too much (I know I'd do that on myself if I were following me xD)
@marian du kannst unter Einstellungen->Filter einzelne Keywords filtern und so z.B. twitter oder @twitter filtern, auch praktisch wenn EurovisionSongContest oder Tatort ist und ich die Hashtags somit nicht sehen muss ;)
@marian What I would like to say is that people are not abusing this fed universe in such a way that it appears as if they don’t care for it ,but they want to include it. Like links to other platforms.
Some people are saying just block them or use the filters features, however that does not always work.
The accounts are based on fediverse, and some of them try to avoid being seen as a crossposter intentionally. There are instances where they don't link anything to twitter directly on their toots, and only send abstract messages that are remotely relevant to the fediverse contexts.
@grabe I'm sure crossposts are usually done automatically by some crossposting apps.
If somebody goes and manually posts the same message on Twitter and e. g. Mastodon, I have no issue with that. Usually in that case there are no @-mentions or re-tweets involved.
@marian I disagree because I find the cross-posting convenient.
I only intentionally cross-post from Twitter, by retweet or writing a tweet not starting with @.
This is done carefully to ensure people on both sides get a coherent feed of toots/tweets from me.
Though, Twitter has it hard because it often gets just links to mastodon.
This applies to this account, not the @firstname.lastname@example.org one which posts German content and has no equivalent on Twitter (maybe it should).
@PawelK I think it's common in Poland, isn't it? My parents named me after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari%C3%A1n_%C5%A0%C5%A5astn%C3%BD who is Slovakian.
Yep thats why I thought origin is polish initially. Kewl man. It mustve been brave to name a German kid after eastern european star.
As on this one I dont know. I would like solution with instance or set of instances cloning twitter. Block this or all such instances and you muted all of it. Just an idea. Why not choose how to solve it in democratic way by poll or something?
@PawelK My approach was raising awareness in users, so they can reflect their behaviour. Hoping that this leads to some netiquette-like behaviour change.
Not sure I'm reaching the ones that are causing the issue, as many of them don't tend to listen here.
@marian One time I found a really cool image on twitter (I don't go there very often) but I couldn't "boost" it to mastodon, so I decided to just send a link. So yeah, I agree with your point.
I think you can filter posts containing " RT " (note the spaces). If it happens that you also filter out Russian state propaganda by mistake, well, that's life...
@marian I'd ask to differ between boosting retweets and best-effort synchronization.
Something that starts with "RT @..." requires context that can't be taken for granted. But eg. in the (nascent) @RIOT account we filter out retweets (they don't make sense here) and the content producers there are aware their messages reach farther. At-mentions persist (a la "Event... featuring X Y (@xy)"). Do you consider those viable, or have suggestions on how to replicate better?
Die Mastodon-Instanz für BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN, von Netzbegrünung e.V.